so, um. ONE KIDNEY DONATION LATER i got a ps3...

[moonsheen]

Something from Florence is Florentine.

Something from Rome is Roman.

Something from Bologna is Bolognese.

Something from Milan is Milanese.

Something from Naples is Neapolitan.

What I ask you, oh more linguistically savvy f-list, is this: if we're dealing with a fictional Italian city by the name of Caprona Fortuna....WHAT exactly to you call something or someone coming from a place called Fortuna? Fortunan? Fortunese? Your Mom? WE PLAYED THESE GAME BACK WITH FFXII. h-help.

The future of some very ridiculous fic is at stake.

and as for the GAME well, oh, yes, yes it's all very awesome and I think I've turned into a 13 year old boy and WHO LET ALLEN WALKER AND KUROSAKI ICHIGO BREED?!?!

Comments

[incandescens]

... well, someone from Alsace is an Alsatian.

And I believe that someone from Tangiers may be a Tangerine, but am not sure.

[raineyz.livejournal.com]

Fortunate. Unless said city is falling into disrepair and is ruled by a despotic half-wit.

ba-dam ching

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

... and what if he's also the pope?

[lacunarity.livejournal.com]

My dad says "Fortunari" and I believe him.

[croaky.livejournal.com]

That.. is a very good question. Of course, I have absolutely no idea but I'm FASCINATED.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Tru Fax: I have since the first game basically assumed that the whole of DMC takes place in this weird AU Italy. This was further confirmed by my mind by the general architecture we are treated to in DMC3. And then in the fourth game Fortuna had to go and basically be Rome. (....except on an island. So I guess Rome packed up and moved to Sicily then Fortuna happened?) And then I would not be told different.

And of course, I feel if there's a dude called Dante having Sexy Adventures with a lady called BEATRIIIITrish, I guess you'd have to stick them in Weird AU Florence to complete the most bizarre take on the Divine Comedy ever.

[croaky.livejournal.com]

Weird AU Italy indeed or at the very least; a world in which everything is weirdly Italian because that makes it cracktastically ten times more atmospheric and awesome. However I think they went to Spain rather than Italy for 'creepy old castles in old Mediterranean environment(tm)' inspiration wile researching the first game. BUT HEY Spain, Italy.. what's the difference? (add South of France and we have some real artsy EVIL in the making)

Dante makes any adventure sexy and rock'n'roll swordplay in red leather certainly is POETRY IN MOTION to me. ♥ Trish is one excellently and dark parody of Beatrice xD

Fortuna sure has a lot of bars though and no cafés if you want to be picky about south European city culture/whatever. Altho id does give me funny visions of all them folks dressed up as pilgrims going to the pub after mass to discuss boy aren't the demons troublesome these days thank goodness for the Saviour (cheers) and golly that kid Nero in the royal guards ain't he a disrespecting and rude fella with that dress tisktisk kids these days but Credo's sister sure looks hot dun she ah yes (cheers).

LASTLY (wow look at me babble all over your journal), in comment to one of the comments below, Dante SHOOTING THE POPE and all.... The Pope has a whole lot of hilarious and creepy concepts in the book. Everything from really creepy old guy (worse than in the game that is), to creepy old guy midget, to Buddah-looking lotus kid. I am grateful they ditched those but man would it have been a sight to see Dante shoot Midget Pope.

waitwaitwait so the game passed on PIMPCOAT DANTE shooting MIDGET POPE? BLASPHEMY!

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Add the South of France and I think Ashley Riot's going be wanting some words.

...come to think of it, they call the late feudal ruler of Mallet the castellan, don't they? Awrite, so the spooky castle of DMC1 is most probably somewhere 'round Spain! That totally doesn't change the fact that Dante's shop in the anime and DMC3 is located on a block that looks distinctly Italian. (...of course, the anime also forgets that Lady should be TEN YEARS OLDER THAN SHE IS IN DMC3 so maybe that's not the best place to go for these things)

One also has to take into account the fact that Fortuna is totally stuck god knows how many centuries in the past. Rigid backdated society! Everyone's in long gowns and waistcoats! The most modern thing about the place is the port area (for obvious reasons), the labs (for equally obvious reasons), and Nero. And Nero presumably got that way from a good amount of skeeving off to the mainland on Order related business. Also, illegal imports. But I assume all those weird 19th century designs they go through in the artbook are probably how the PROPER young Fortunato (HAH! There we go!) dresses himself.

Also, I totally remember the extra-game material talking about all that gossip re: SO THAT GLORIA, DID SHE SLEEP HER WAY TO THE TOP OR NOT?

passed on PIMPCOAT DANTE shooting MIDGET AND MIDGET ASIAN POPE even

[croaky.livejournal.com]

Little Italy? xD

This is true, but they do have cars and buses and neon signs in the main street of Fortuna! (leading up to the opera hall whatever) BUT THEN AGAIn taking all the other utterly random designs of the town and castles and "HQ" the inhabitants of Fortuna are clearly one helluva bunch of artsy but crazy amish so in their mind it probably makes PERFECT SENSE.

Y'know, not too difficult to see where those rumours came from.

[petronia.livejournal.com]

Fortunato/fortunata, maybe? (-ona goes to -ese but it doesn't look right with -una.)

[motorbike.livejournal.com]

I concur.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Oh, I like that! I'd been juggling that one around, but my linguistically-challenged self wasn't entirely sure I wouldn't be lynched for it.

[chibirisu.livejournal.com]

Seconding Petronia's vote - I don't speak Italian but I've got several years of Latin; I can see the pattern behind the others' plural forms through their Latin bases, and fortuna->fortunata (for a female person or fortunato for a male or ae (females)/i (males/mixed-gender group) makes structural sense to me...

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

ooh, yes. That's exactly what I was looking for. Honestly given the setting is pretty much a fictional religious state that Is Not Papal Rome We Swear...that may do it, I think.

[yoshitsune.livejournal.com]

I'd say Fortunese, maybe? A lot of the names ending in -a (in their Anglicized forms, at least) go to -ese, like Genoa and Bologna. On the other hand, Padua becomes Padovani, so who knows? Nevertheless, I imagine it's probably -ese.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

That's what I was assuming. But it looks/sounds awkward and there are so many exceptions...not to mention, yeah. Taking into account it'd be different in Italian anyway.

[saturnoolaa.livejournal.com]

One more vote for Fortunata/o.

Also... what game is this?

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Devil May Cry 4! In which the new main character is a cranky catholic punk (and thus geared to hit all of my ADORE buttons) and Dante SHOOTS THE POPE IN THE FACE.

[adesso.livejournal.com]

I'd say Fortunato/a/i. 'Cause "Roman" is "romani" in Italian, so it makes sense. Also, it's nifty because "fortunato" also means "fortunate." :D

[arks.livejournal.com]

Fortunan is how Star Fox did it. I don't know if this is a vote for or against. I like Fortunati.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Well, in all fairness Fortunan is the simplest/easiest to SAY. But yeah Fortunata/i just sounds cool.

which, given the "LOGIC? WHAT LOGIC? SHE JUST THREW A MOTORCYCLE AT HIM" nature of the DMC franchise...

[tlc010.livejournal.com]

You use alcohol to lure them into a crypt, brick it up and then you can call those Fortuna jerks whatever you feel.

I agree with Fortunato/a. Though Freedom Fries is tempting, if a little contemporary.

[regicidaldwarf.livejournal.com]

...I take Italian, I should know this. -__-;

Fortunato/a/e/i looks the most correct to me, but I'm not sure.

[cornucopian.livejournal.com]

Fortuitous!


Sorry, couldn't help it. Good luck with whatever you decide on! :D