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[moonsheen]

Since I am all about that 'one line posts with random meme' thing of late. Here goes! Comment with a pairing or character from a fandom I know and I will, like, totally talk about it and stuff.

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[beckingham.livejournal.com]

The awesome that is Rukia/Renji, perhaps? XD

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...oh dear you've picked the long one.

Renji/Rukia? Where to start with Renji/Rukia? They're my series OTP. From the first few pages with them. O.T.friggin'P. It came up in a conversation with my AWESOME roommate pocky_slash the other day: two of the big kinks we both have with pairings? History and devotion. These two have it in spades. And with a fair bit of snark and bitchery to add in.

They manage to be utterly romantic, s'thing. Not in personality or interaction. Oh, no no, they're so incrediably unromantic it isn't even funny. They're two ambitious, well traveled, former alleybrats who are foul-tempered, foul-mouthed, violent, and often times utterly selfish. But even so there's such a wistfulness to what they have and have had I can't help but think they're maybe just a little bit canon. Cute pairing monnikers for the win. A Star and a Stray Dog!

...plus Renji's so...unabashedly doing everything for her. He's not a sop for it either--which is the problem I think, with the rare rare rare Renji/Rukia fic out there. Angsty piney sad crying dog is not. right. here. Renji's in love with her. I mean, that's pretty damn canon, I'd almost say. He's sickly in love with her. Knows it. But is a BIG SNARLY DOG ABOUT IT. Rukia might know it, might not. I'd say not, but not for the fact that nothing ever happened (Renji/Rukia long term messed up relationship? totally my not so secret kink), but for the fact Rukia's issues make it terribly hard for her to understand how ANYONE could care for her enough to lay down their life for her....whiiich comes to, what I think, is my favorite thing about their relationship: they know eachother better than they know themselves. Rukia knows how to push Renji's buttons to get him working again. Renji is the one who cuts to the heart of the absolute insecurity and guilt and pain that was eating her alive. "No one thinks as badly of you as you do." ...truer words were NEVER spoken to her. And the fact that she LISTENS to him....yeah. I don't see them as a tragic pairing at all. I think they're about two very old, very screwed up people who...are old and screwed up together. But they've a thing like that going for a long long time and I'd feel sad if they didn't still have eachother after they picked up the pieces of the chaos that the SS arc turned both their lives into.

...also, yanno, in Renji's intro my first thought was '...wow, Rukia's got a really. really pissy ex there."

She sure does.

[aidosaur.livejournal.com]

(Excellent, that was what I was going to ask for! XD ) Wonderfully said! Finally a reason to use my 197spoiler icon for the first time! :D

The most recent developments in the manga have made me go all smitten with them again. Just the beautiful 'partners in crime' relationship they have, they understand each other so perfectly and wordlessly. (Personally, I've been getting a strong 'Ichigo's abusive big brother and big sister' vibe from the two of them since 195.)

Thank you for talking about my OTP!

[beckingham.livejournal.com]

I'd have words for you, but - incoherent now by 'shipping love and such, yes. I will sum up then: agree and heartHEART you. If only someone could fully convince of Ichigo/Rukia like I am so convinced of Rukia/Renji. I guess I'll always be a Renji/Rukia fangirl. But who's complaining, anyway?

[halcyonjazz.livejournal.com]

Since I met you while you were waining in Naruto: er. Naruto!

...we'll ignore the fact that I pretty much can guess without asking!

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Naruto was, I think, one of the first times I came across a main shounen character who actually made me love them. It's funny too, because in a lot of ways the little booger is so damn stereotypical on a lot of counts--but...damnit Naruto COME HOME AND LET ME PET YOU AND FEED YOU RAMEN! Even if you'd probably eat the whole house. Something about his story still makes me wibble. The fact that he has an OMG painful past that he never really let's get him down--you ROOT for him. I think what I mourn about the series these days is the fact that it sort of...stopped being about him. If that makes sense? What I really banked on in the manga was well. BABY NINJA GROWING UP. Now it's just 'NOT SO BABY NINJA RUNNING PLACES' and that makes me sad because it's sort of taken a lot of heart out of it and replaced it with...running. and more running. and far too many damn generic reaction shots.

Naruto is like, everyone's kid brother. The one you want to kick for being such a little ass sometimes but at the same time you also want to put an arm around him and noogie him to death. While he curses you out. And possibly bites you.

Plus, yanno, he gave a teacher the finger in the first chapter of his series. That always, always won points with me.

[roark28.livejournal.com]

Naruto and Sakura XD

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...cute. snarly. argumentive. dumb pre-teens. much more plausible as fully blossomed teens. likely to date for all of a week before they nearly murder eachother and decide what the fuck are they doing and go back to being dumb familial together. suspect strongly that Naruto's probably crushed on her for, like, ever due to Some Deep Meaningful Childhood Moment which probably involved her giving him a flower in frustration and him kissing her cheek and her proceeding to throw him down a hill. she was The Girl For Him, after that. such was the natural order of these things.

[pocky_slash.livejournal.com]

Gay gay gay Wilson.

Story. Right.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Wilson. I like Wilson. I also believe he has mad teleporting powers or something. And by teleporting powers I mean...his office is attached to House's via a balcony. His purposes in the series really does seem to be. to magically appear. look alternately perplexed and amused. And play the part of one of the few, few people who actually relate to House on the level of an equal. Of course, at the same time he manages to do all this with giving very precious little away about himself--the things about his personal life that we get have always come through directly or indirectly through House. Wilson...very professional, in that sense, I think. Those are the parts that show just how...quietly messed up he kind of sort of is, but he keeps them to himself and (presumably) does his job. The one breach in all of that is House. And it's one that he doesn't always seem comfortable with but never does anything but accept in his life. Because he's Wilson. Pooky T. Cancerpants. M.D.

Also more and more likely kinda queer.

[lacewood]

Ichigo/Renji/Rukia

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Platonically? Idiot Trio for the Win. As a threesome? Not so much. I think it just stems from the fact I can't see Ichigo in any romantic permutation with Rukia, like, ever. Renji/Ichigo fine. Yes. Ask chirachira, they're a big guilty snarly mansex kink of mine. Rukia/Ichigo? Not so much. They're just so...fine and touching and aww worthy the way they are I very much don't want to see them together in that sense. And as a threesome? I don't think the personalities quite mesh for a workable dynamic. It...seems a lot of the time to simplifly the characters in the process. Rukia'd be more likely to have 'em both in headlocks. She's just not the threesome type.

...Unless it's Kaien and his wife.

Um.

[memlu.livejournal.com]

Tidus! Alternatively, Tidus/Yuna. Alternatively-alternatively, Seymour.

feed my addiction plz!

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

TIDUS AND YUNA NEED TO HAVE ADD BABIES. THEY SO DO. First RPG main couple I actually cared about! Zidane/Garnet let me down! Others...I cannot think about right now! I hadn't played FF7 at the time! The idea KH main trio actually sexing it up in game time kinda disturbs me!

But yes. Tidus ish so stupid for the girl. The girl ish so stupid for Tidus. Together. They can be TRULY STUPID. I love that it really isn't a case of 'the main heroine who SEKRITLY HAS FEELINGS FOR THE MAIN CHARACTER' no, no no, they're dumb kids who talk and do stuff together and kinda flirt but also, yanno, have things they have to be doing here. And I can't say much without UTTERLY SPOILING YOU and this makes me sad. But. Yes. OTP. OT-FRIKKIN'-P. The love part of the equation doesn't feel tacked on, and they're both allowed to be strong characters in their own right, not defined by any ZOMG ROMANCE plot at all.

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

Allen/Rinali for the world-saving kisses win

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...things that annoy me about D.Gray fandom as a whole #1748: people saying Rinali's feelings for Allen feel 'sudden' and 'tacked' on. I disagree. I didn't go in expecting to ship those two as hard as I do. I didn't go in expecting to ship anyone at all. Thing is they grew on me. Like a fungus. And suddenly by the time the Soman Dark arc came I was just "OK THEY NEED TO KISS LIKE, RIGHT NOW."

I think it's because I think they were built up pretty realistically, all things considered. Allen thought she was cute. Which, yanno, kinda don't blame him there. Allen goes on a mission with her. They work together. They bond. They learn a little about themselves. We actually get to see this process. They become terribly adorable friends. She's not afraid to smack him when his Big Heart nearly gets himself exploded. He's a Dumb Shounen Hero who just wanders off being Dense and not Talking About That after the fact. They work issues out together. It's terribly functional.

...that said I also think Rinali is a completely damaged person.

Completely. Utterly. Hard to escape with a past like hers. She was taken by the Church at a very young age: small, frightened child, parents dead, only brother seperated from her. Probably unable to understand a word anyone's saying at that time. The flashbacks it looks like she tried to kill herself. She saw horrible experiments being done under the Black Order's own roof. It's clearly had a lasting effect. She carries herself in a way that seems so...functional. But damaged. Her default expression is just so utterly dull and tired looking. Not to mention the fact that even now, the Church is basically holding her brother hostage. She's still very much the same prisoner she was as a little girl, it's just...been made more comfortable for her.

With that in mind she probably does genuinely hate Allen and his ever-loving attitude in spite of everything. It's infuriating to her. Because there are ugly things in the world, there are bad people, bad circumstance--none of which Allen has to die for, although sometimes it seems very much like he'd like to try. The fact that it seems to be suggested she has some power of premonition suggesting that's just what he's going to do just probably makes it worse. It's a tension I love between them. She doesn't want to see him die, but he's not destined to live long-- by virtue of prophecy or maybe just by virtue of the fact he's too. damn. good. for everyone. Even her. Especially her. ...but she wants to do what she can for him anyway, and it hurts her terribly when she can't. But he forgives her. She knows he will. She has to be angry for the both of them then.

...and then yanno, he like, juggles for her or something and it's all good again.

And then her brother just. murders him. ^_^

[feather-down.livejournal.com]

I choose the Priss. Yay!

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Byakuya. Oooh. Byakuya. He's a funny one for me. I can distinctly remember disliking the guy. Or well, disliking his archetype: oh, look, another 'coldhearted insanely powerful big brother' type. Remember that chirachira? Me not liking Byakuya very much. This, of course, naturally meant I had to devote a stupidly long fanfic to him. Somehow, this made me like him. And now he's one of my favorites. (among, like, a thousand favorites I have in Bleach but anyway)

...I think what I like most about him is how...abrasive he is. I sort of suspect he doesn't care that much about people meeting his expectation so much as people fall over themselves to meet what their expectations of what his expectations are. Byakuya just tends to watch this boredly and do his own thing. He expects perfection, this is true. But he expects that as a default so there's no praise when it's met and caustic remarks when it's not--if that. He's used to disappointment. But people can be fools as they are wont to be, as long as his pride and his law is respected then for the most part? He just doesn't give a damn. Rukia's complexes, Renji's goals. All these things they set for themselves. Byakuya did little more than be there. Be this cold, distant thing that everyone strives for as an ideal: and an ideal he is. He's the leader of the Kuchiki family, he an expert swordsmen, not too shabby at Demon arts, he's well read, probably a skilled poet, probably owns about a fourth of Seireitei if not more, a Captain of the 13 divisions, probably the current representative of the collective nobility...but at the same time he's rude, sarcastic, cold, prefers to keep to himself and likely can't stand about 95% of all people he's forced to associate with by order of being. uh. all those damn things. Also he has stupid hair. Also his wife is dead and he has no heir, as far as we can tell. (unless, like, Hisana died in childirth or something which, yanno, WHO THE HELL KNOWS we've gotten no answer as to exactly what killed her) And as of the SS arc, he was going to watch his sister die. So yes, it actually kind of sucks to be him. Plus, he's an honorable character and bloody clever in a fight. I think the moment I truly liked him was at the end of his battle with Renji: when he throws his scarf over him, which to me showed a shocking amount of respect for a man he had, for all intent and purpose, just killed.

In short: he's a priss, but he's our priss, damnit!

[random-prophet.livejournal.com]

he has no heir, as far as we can tell.

but what about midnite raven kuchiki :(

[hitode.livejournal.com]

Either Ishida and Ryuuken or Ishida/Inoue.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

I find Ishida and Ryuuken oddly touching.

...uh. This one takes some explanation.

It's bitter. Bitter, bitter, bitter. It seems more than likely Ishida ran away from home at some point in the recent past. It seems Ryuuken is, uh, kinda a dick. It seems Ishida is extremely angry at his father for a number of reasons, the most likely probably being his treatment of his grandfather: who, as we've seen, Ishida loved a heckuvalot.

But at the same time I can't help but take the bastardliness Ryuuken has been expressing as, well, bizarrely protective. I think the key thing is the fact that Souken told Ishida that he wouldn't be able to understand his father's reasoning 'till he was older: I always took that to mean that Ryuuken was a Quincy who had, for whatever reason, given up being a Quincy. I suspect that reason factors very strongly into well...possibly wherever the heck the mother fits into all of this. i.e. Ryuuken lost someone to his profession, gave it up to become a doctor to do his best for the living rather than the dead. Ergo, did his very best to discourage his son from also becoming a Quincy, in order to keep him from making the same mistakes. Ishida is kinda sickly and very psychic: and as it's noted...hollows are attracted to the people who can see them.

So I think the 'one thing' Ishida's father protected wasn't the Pride of the Quincy, it's the life of his family, his son. Which, uh, apparently means making lotsa money and becoming a doctor, young man. But if you have to get this ridiculousness out of your system very well but no more playing with those nasty shinigami children.

Which is something Ishida doesn't yet understand.

[hitode.livejournal.com]

Uwaaah...that's so well put. It's excellent. Thank you. ^_^

Have you ever read this fic before?
http://www.livejournal.com/users/ingenius_inc/72689.html

[noshootingstars.livejournal.com]

Wash/Zoe.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...are what sold me on Firefly. The moment Wash went "My wife--" I POINGED. I've always felt there aren't enough well written married couples in, well, anything. The reason being this: it's easy to exploit the 'will they get together?!' romantic tension. Writing actual functional working relationships and making them interesting as such? ...takes some doing. I'm impressed by these two in this regard. They're two very different, amazingly awesome people who love eachother, support eachother, don't always get along, don't always understand eachother where they're coming from; but nevertheless work and try and stick together when lesser writing would probably try to pull a soap opera stunt out of desperation.

Also the woman wears the pants in that relationship.

Also, the man thinks the woman has a mighty fine ass.

Also I would agree.

Leaf on the wind.

[foxfur.livejournal.com]

Crowley and Miranda :D

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...don't think Crowley's quite ready for it yet (eliade ;_;). But oh god they would have the cutest, most easily scared babies ever.

[dosetsu.livejournal.com]

One Oh! Great question deserves another. Talk Mitsuomi at me. 8D

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...was much cuter before he started hittin' the steroids.

I pity Mitsuomi. I kinda really really pity him. Past and present, the guy is just so very in over his head and it's not something he can ever seem to escape, even when he's got some guns with him. As bitterly awesome as his coup was at the end of the flashback arc-- all that power basically got him nowhere. He's still subject to the same machinations that fucked him over the first time around and it's a little worse for the fact he's more aware of it this time, and this time it's just bigger and nastier and he's living on borrowed time anyway.

Also, yanno, he managed to totally do Sephiroth Maya's brother and Maya's brother's girlfriend, but. uh. not Maya. ...way to go, Mitsuomi. Also, your logic makes no damn sense but the anime decided to animate your ass so I guess it's okay.

[basement-gnome.livejournal.com]

Ha! Now I have my own LJ, I can fully participate in these....Oh, my soul cries out in despair. Well, since noone seems to talk about it anymore...Shamanic Princess! And im not letting you off easy by giving you a specific pairing, no, you gotta talk about the WHOLE thing!

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

I'm curious about your ideas on Hisana.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Hahaha, Hisana! I'm glad someone asked me about Hisana. She has not had nearly the page time to warrent my utter fascination with her but curse it, unlike some dead wives in this series this one actually has a name and face so what the heck.

Hisana was a woman all about survival, I think. The things we know about her are basically what drove her for the last five years of her life--not the previous, what? Thirty? Forty? We know though that she was a young girl. And she was a young girl with an infant in Inuzuri-- which, as Abarai Renji notes, was a place where all adults were murderers and thieves and all children were animals. Most children die there, as evidenced by what became of Renji and Rukia's gang. Hisana, somehow, managed to get out of there though. Managed to make it to Seireitei, which is no small feat I think...considering it takes days to get from gate to gate, I can only imagine how long it takes to get to the inner city from the outer reaches of rukongai.

I can't really blame Hisana too harshly for abandoning her sister. It was a terrible thing to do, but it's understandable. She'd just died, most likely horribly and suddenly--if the fact she and her sister were both killed in the same instant is any indication--she was young, frightened, probably desperately hungry (I think it's fair to assume she did have some spiritual power, after all. I like to think her specialities lay in Demon Arts, since that seems to be Rukia and these things seem to be at least partly genetic) people do ugly things in order to survive. And that's what she did. I don't think she thought to regret for a long time afterwards either: she was so focused on just. surviving. living. Reaching a point where she could rest comfortably and eat regularly and not have to live on her toes expecting death to come again around any corner. She didn't give her sister much thought at that time--she didn't give anything much thought. I suspect entering Seireitei and (presumably) the shinigami Academy was something of a depressurization period. She was still driven to success, driven too excel. But suddenly having everything she wanted she realized like a ton of bricks the things she'd given up along the way and she...didn't quite know what to do with that. Nothing she could do about it at that point either. At least, until Byakuya came along.

Which makes me sort of think her five years searching for Rukia weren't really mournful ones. There's every case to be made for a sad, broken hearted Hisana--she seemed a pretty tragic figure. But she does say to Byakuya her time with him was like a dream. And I kinda took it to mean: he let her do what she wanted to do. Whether or not she found her sister... the fact that she was free to look for her. Free to at least try to make it better, was something for her. And she went to it with a great deal of passion and determination. She was making something right that she hadn't realized was eating her for ages so, while she died with some regret at having not been able to acheive what she set out to do, she at least was able to do that. And she was terribly grateful for that chance at least. I think she did love Byakuya, for that (couldn't've done it without the wealth and power of the Kuchiki backing her). But she wasn't able to give him the equivalent in return-- so instead she gave him her sister. The only thing to her former name she could give him. ...so I don't think she died too unhappily, in the end.

Also, um, she was probably a pickpocket and insanely good at playing the 'delicate flower' to pull strings. She could also probably match Byakuya for wit, albeit humbly. And in third person, apparently, because Hisana is just strange like that.

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

Wow, thanks for the lengthy response.

I wonder if we'll see more of Hisana in the manga in flashback, or if we'll just all have to invent our own backstory....

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

I tend to think, by way of Shounen Formula, that all depends on if Byakuya's booked for any more harrowing life threatening battles any time soon...

[worldserpent.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I think then that's a yes, because Byakuya seems to be quite popular, so he will probably get more major battles.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

Most of my knowledge of the Matantei Loki series comes from the anime and a couple of volumes of the manga. Conclusions: manga!Mayura? Cool and useful and smart and quite likable. Anime!Mayura? ...one of the rare, rare characters I actually dislike. I think it's the fact that she has such potential to be an interesting person...but...she. fails. So badly. And manages to be rock stupid about it in the process. Anime!Mayura enforces that old stereotype of 'omg being a spirited ditz is CUTE!' that I...am not fond of, in my female leads.

That said I hate, hate, hated that the end of the anime decided to have Loki stay for no other reason than omg poor Mayura. As opposed to, you know, more valid reasons like his children. And his children. And his children who are only, you know, awesome. Yaminoooo No, it had to be about the cute girl. Who I almost liked for her 'I don't believe in Gods' speech-- would've liked her for it, in fact, if it didn't directly contradict an earlier episode where she was all "I WILL PRAY TO A GOD TO DO WELL ON THIS MAKE UP TEST I HAVE NOT BOTHERED STUDYING FOR AT ALL.' So yes, I'm not so fond of the prospect of Mayura/Loki. If anything he finds her amusing in the way an extremely dumb puppy is amusing--I just didn't buy his sudden gooshy feelings for her the way the anime attempted to present it.

[farli.livejournal.com]

I know we talked KH last week (&heart;), but I'd like thoughts on Kaaaaairi~

(And while I know you like the Trinity factor, what's your thoughts on Sora/Kairi?)

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

I ♥ KAIRI. I DON'T ACTUALLY GET THE CHANCE TO SAY THIS NEARLY AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE TO. She's sweet, and funny, and cute and her bestest bestest friends are a pair of big dumb guys. I don't think people give her enough credit for that last part. No, really, friends with a couple of 13/14 year old boys. They bleed stupid. She hasn't dropkicked them both! Especially Riku, who sort of wins in the stupid department if only for the fact he's supposed to be the smart one.

I also cannot deny that Sora has the biggest, dumbest, cutest crush on Kairi, like, ever. He probably doesn't even realize it. It's this dopey, innocent kind of devotion that's just very fitting. He'd hang the stars for her. And he kinda sorta did. I'd feel bad if yonder Between Earth and Sky trio didn't find eachother again by the end of the games...but I can't say I'd object if Sora grew up and decided, yeah, he kinda like liked her. She might keep him from running headlong off a cliff or something.

[random-prophet.livejournal.com]

I'm going to be unique and ask for the Count of Monte Cristo, Gankutsuou version.

[moonsheen.livejournal.com]

...ok the Count is kinda hot. and blue. But also hot and blue. I'm not sure how I can reconcile this. He just needs to keep speaking French, I think. Yes. That will be good.

In all seriousness though, I was a little disappointed with how he was ultimately handled in the anime. The whole making of his vengeance drive and Count persona and ultimately posessive outer force...cheapened the drive of the book, somehow. And the fact that ultimately Mercedes wasn't still the one person who could reach him. I don't begrudge the anime for ending the way it did, because the Count the way the anime developed him sort of earned it... but even so it leaves me kinda...meh. It stepped away from it's "19TH CENTURY NOVEL OF THE FUTURE" feel and treaded more into the 'generic anime crackbaby climax' area. Which made me sad.

But the Count was indeed, hot, and blue. And he said 'hoooo?' which is something that automatically sends a characters hotness factor through the damn roof for me. And I am, ultimately, easily sold on these things.

But for gods sake please don't make him fuck Albert. Because that's just wrong.

[random-prophet.livejournal.com]

I'm more of a Franz/Albert girl, so.

Also. I found the ending weird as well... yeah I support Edmond/Haydee. It went... TOO far from the book, in my opinion.

But yeah. Very hot.

[lily22.livejournal.com]

Despite your complete lack of a lack of comments, I felt the need to contribute as well. So. Bleach: The guy in my icon. (Alternatively, him and Ichigo?) First of all, should a narrator call him "Chad" or "Sado"? This is driving me nuts. Not that it, you know, actually matters. But still!

[thetruebard.livejournal.com]

Kuukaku. Or Kuukaku/Yoruichi, thanks to your snippet.